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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 12, 2010 at 10:47pm

How Bihar will grow?
I personally feel that Bihar can grow only when corruption will go down and law order will maintain. The best way of this is MLAs OR MPs should be selected on some criteria. Any one should not get a ticket for this. A highly well qualified person should be chosen by exam like IAS exam before issuing ticket for fighting a seat. Even a common man can come and fight, after passing the exam, they should have training period and successfully completed person should appointed for MLA OR MPs. Government should sponsor in all once they are selected in exam. I am asking what a wrong in writing exam. A doctor has to pass an exam because he has to save a life, why not a MLA or MP can appear for exam, he has to deals a district or town and many more lives. How a man can rule without knowing, without having intelligence. I hope at least India should come forward to initiate such vital thing. Same thing is applicable for Bihar also. It's not people of Bihar who can change the system alone but Indian government and constitution has to come forward to resole these issues…

Thanks
Dr Naushad Alam

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 12, 2010 at 10:47pm

How Bihar will grow?
I personally feel that Bihar can grow only when corruption will go down and law order will maintain. The best way of this is MLAs OR MPs should be selected on some criteria. Any one should not get a ticket for this. A highly well qualified person should be chosen by exam like IAS exam before issuing ticket for fighting a seat. Even a common man can come and fight, after passing the exam, they should have training period and successfully completed person should appointed for MLA OR MPs. Government should sponsor in all once they are selected in exam. I am asking what a wrong in writing exam. A doctor has to pass an exam because he has to save a life, why not a MLA or MP can appear for exam, he has to deals a district or town and many more lives. How a man can rule without knowing, without having intelligence. I hope at least India should come forward to initiate such vital thing. Same thing is applicable for Bihar also. It's not people of Bihar who can change the system alone but Indian government and constitution has to come forward to resole these issues…

Thanks
Dr Naushad Alam

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Permalink Reply by Mohammad Eqbal Perwaiz on October 20, 2010 at 2:03pm

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

I am sorry, Dr. Alam. Everything here is wishful thinking.

M. EQBAL PERWAIZ :
Though Dr Alam's thought process is noble and genuine is genuine, yet I agree with Dr Kumar.
See, a revolutionary change in this system is neither currently possible, nor, I guess, desirable given the low education and rampant poverty.
What we have to make do with is the evolutionary changes.
The MLAs and MPs and the Bureaucracy is always the favorite targets of intellectuals, but, Alas, more often, in wrong pursuit.
I do not know, but currently I see Nitish Kumar as an exception- despite his dillydallying with Modi, BJP etc. He may seem to many as image grabber ( all the central funds utilized for various schemes and he taking credit for it), but I feel, he is one fellow after a series of Bourbons who was at least concerned about bringing in a semblance of order. Mind it, the misrule has been going for almost about 35 years in Bihar.
If he loses it out, it would be a disaster, because 1. those lying low will resurface and will have a field day with vengeance; 2. the officials who were doing good work will be punished and they will go into wilderness;3. casteism will become yet more circulated currency.
I think Biharis should put some pressure on Centre and get some more schemes worked out for Bihar.
The need of the hour is Law and Order situation and investment in large projects.
we do not have minerals now; food processing industry needs a lot more focussed attention on the farming and horticulture. Mukteshwar Pant used work with Hoshiarpur farmers for growing improved tomatoes for Pepsico's tomato puree project; can any body do the same in Bihar? Answer is no, because he will simply not go there for the fear of kidnapping or a general "loot lo" attitude which is partly true ( what do you do when you do not have anything else to do to earn your livelihood) but largely made up. If we have to invite investments such as those, we need to provide safety and security to the people who are interested in working here.
See, there has to be some strong reason for people to move in; either you are rich in minerals that the entire government machinery goes for the hunt ( extreme case, we are witnessing right now- from PC to SMS, from journos to lobbyists, from political classes to bureaucrats, all want the minerals and those mega projects, even if it meant eliminating a whole generation or even stock of people).
But there is no "greed factor" there.
What is left, then?
Why can not we have IT and ITES centres in Bihar ( whose products actually staff a lot of these centres in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore)? But who will come there? Infosys goes to Orissa, Wipro goes to Kolkata, but these gentlemen can not come to Patna, because who knows what would happen to them there?
The fear factor has to be ELIMINATED. Then only investments would come there. Merely signing of MOUs can not help.
The State govt has to ensure this.
State govt will also have think innovatively about the attractiveness factor? It is dog-eat-dog competition among the states to attract investments; you have to position yourself in such a way that there was sustainable attractiveness in your state- local taxation, power tariff, manpower, etc, planks which form the qualifying criterion.
Those Biharis who are serious about it, should counsel the government, irrespective whether they are heard or not; at least you will done your bit. And that is what counts.
I am ready to be part of such a group; please come forward.
Thanks and best regards
Eqbal

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Permalink Reply by Azad Ansari on October 20, 2010 at 2:43pm

Dear bro, as per my opinion if d literacy rate becomes gud enough as compared 2 present scenario ...

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Permalink Reply by Shalu Sharma on October 20, 2010 at 3:06pm

Very right, law and order is very important for Bihar. For most of its days Bihar has been very corrupt and crime has been order of the day.

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Permalink Reply by Mohammad Aslam on October 20, 2010 at 3:33pm

the theory is forwarded by Mr. Naushad Alam is important and worth value but it can not be implemented in politics. See students appear for their exam to their seniors and chosen ISA as per their skills and qualities. but here the seniors, most probably would be more corrupted. moreover if they are chosen by tough exams then they would be the MPs or MLAs of seniors or examiners not the mass and in democracy mass voice is valued not only examiners. So Mr. Alam's idea of exam to fight elections will not be welcomed by professionals of mass.

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 21, 2010 at 11:56am

Please dont loose heart; it's slow and take time.... but changing is good until it is under law-order.

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

I am sorry, Dr. Alam. Everything here is wishful thinking.

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 21, 2010 at 12:01pm

Dear Aslam
please dont enter inside the problem but look it from out side and from distant. once the system will change , the people thinking way will also change. perception will change.
very one has to be perfecr at his or her level.... the day 50% people started thing POSITIVE it means things are changing... first thing we have to correct our self.......MOST IMPORTANT...

Mohammad Aslam said:

the theory is forwarded by Mr. Naushad Alam is important and worth value but it can not be implemented in politics. See students appear for their exam to their seniors and chosen ISA as per their skills and qualities. but here the seniors, most probably would be more corrupted. moreover if they are chosen by tough exams then they would be the MPs or MLAs of seniors or examiners not the mass and in democracy mass voice is valued not only examiners. So Mr. Alam's idea of exam to fight elections will not be welcomed by professionals of mass.

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 21, 2010 at 12:09pm

Dear Madam
Blaming only bihar or biharis not always justifiable. i am asking why central govt is not taking action? if centre decided to bring law an order , it wll take just days or month to bring law an order.... CLEAN CITY ...CLEAN BIHAR.. other wise waiting for some group to arise like MAO OR ANY SANGATHAN TO come arise and take part but why it so, where is out internal security?


Shalu Sharma said:

Very right, law and order is very important for Bihar. For most of its days Bihar has been very corrupt and crime has been order of the day.

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 21, 2010 at 12:17pm

Dear Eqbal
I reaspect your thought same time a single man can't change ,even he is trying it will take .... it need lot of time and even many janamam to bring change... if you see history for any change it need fight ,it needs blood, does it required..... NO... NO.. ..NEVER. So what is the best alternative state and central goverment to come forward.... along with us... to stalilise first... then improve..

Mohammad Eqbal Perwaiz said:

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

I am sorry, Dr. Alam. Everything here is wishful thinking.

M. EQBAL PERWAIZ :
Though Dr Alam's thought process is noble and genuine is genuine, yet I agree with Dr Kumar.
See, a revolutionary change in this system is neither currently possible, nor, I guess, desirable given the low education and rampant poverty.
What we have to make do with is the evolutionary changes.
The MLAs and MPs and the Bureaucracy is always the favorite targets of intellectuals, but, Alas, more often, in wrong pursuit.
I do not know, but currently I see Nitish Kumar as an exception- despite his dillydallying with Modi, BJP etc. He may seem to many as image grabber ( all the central funds utilized for various schemes and he taking credit for it), but I feel, he is one fellow after a series of Bourbons who was at least concerned about bringing in a semblance of order. Mind it, the misrule has been going for almost about 35 years in Bihar.
If he loses it out, it would be a disaster, because 1. those lying low will resurface and will have a field day with vengeance; 2. the officials who were doing good work will be punished and they will go into wilderness;3. casteism will become yet more circulated currency.
I think Biharis should put some pressure on Centre and get some more schemes worked out for Bihar.
The need of the hour is Law and Order situation and investment in large projects.
we do not have minerals now; food processing industry needs a lot more focussed attention on the farming and horticulture. Mukteshwar Pant used work with Hoshiarpur farmers for growing improved tomatoes for Pepsico's tomato puree project; can any body do the same in Bihar? Answer is no, because he will simply not go there for the fear of kidnapping or a general "loot lo" attitude which is partly true ( what do you do when you do not have anything else to do to earn your livelihood) but largely made up. If we have to invite investments such as those, we need to provide safety and security to the people who are interested in working here.
See, there has to be some strong reason for people to move in; either you are rich in minerals that the entire government machinery goes for the hunt ( extreme case, we are witnessing right now- from PC to SMS, from journos to lobbyists, from political classes to bureaucrats, all want the minerals and those mega projects, even if it meant eliminating a whole generation or even stock of people).
But there is no "greed factor" there.
What is left, then?
Why can not we have IT and ITES centres in Bihar ( whose products actually staff a lot of these centres in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore)? But who will come there? Infosys goes to Orissa, Wipro goes to Kolkata, but these gentlemen can not come to Patna, because who knows what would happen to them there?
The fear factor has to be ELIMINATED. Then only investments would come there. Merely signing of MOUs can not help.
The State govt has to ensure this.
State govt will also have think innovatively about the attractiveness factor? It is dog-eat-dog competition among the states to attract investments; you have to position yourself in such a way that there was sustainable attractiveness in your state- local taxation, power tariff, manpower, etc, planks which form the qualifying criterion.
Those Biharis who are serious about it, should counsel the government, irrespective whether they are heard or not; at least you will done your bit. And that is what counts.
I am ready to be part of such a group; please come forward.
Thanks and best regards
Eqbal

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Permalink Reply by NAUSHAD ALAM on October 21, 2010 at 12:18pm

Hi all ....
I am thank full to all who participated in this thread and wishing good for Bihar and India..
Jai-Hind.

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Permalink Reply by Mohammad Eqbal Perwaiz on October 22, 2010 at 9:19am

I completely agree with Dr Ajay Kumar; the change must come first within oneself.
It is reported that once a lady appraoched Prohet Muhammad with her son complaining that he was eating too much sweet/ jaggery and requested the prophet to advise the boy not to eat sweet/ sugar this much (as it would affect his health).
The prophet asked them to visit the next day.
When they came the following day, the prohet advised the boy not to eat too much sweet/sugar.
Later on, a companion of the prophet asked asked him that why did he call them one more time for this advice could have been given the first day itself.
The prophet remarked that he himself loved eating sweets/ jaggery/ suagr, so how he could ask the boy to stop? In one day he excercised caution and restain on himself first, and then he could advise the boy.
Moral: practice before you preach.
Let us begin with ourselves.
Please come forward.
Regards
Eqbal

was eating sweets

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

With so many youngsters propounding such clear cut ideas and solutions for Bihar's development, it is heartening to see a ray of hope for our state made wretched by decades of misrule, especially during Laalu-Rabri Raj. Most of the people posting comments here are exiled Bihari like me. But that doesn't matter at all because unless we are concerned about our state, we wouldn't be here in youbihar.com expressing our views and solutions.

First, let us change ourselves. Let us make some vowes :

1. We will respect the law
2. We will practise fair play
3. We will believe in Justice.
4. We will conduct ourselves to highest moral standerd
5. We will shun hypocrisy
6. We will forget the word "Jugaad" and "Sab chalta hai"
7. We will always speak truth, respect and defend other's point of view
8. We will help and encourage other Bihari wherever we are, as long as it is not detrimental to us.
9. We will be honest at all times
10. We will not take bribe, we will expose bribe takers.

Let us clean ourselves first then we start cleaning Bihar.

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