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Permalink Reply by Shalu Sharma on March 15, 2011 at 8:35pm

Actually he has made some valid points. But then who's listening. The PM is not in the business of listening.

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Permalink Reply by Anil Kumar Giri on March 15, 2011 at 10:07pm

Doctor Ajay Kumar the western or rather say developed world doesnot understand the difference between human beings and guinea pigs.

What human rights you are speaking take the example of a soldier who had helped Julian assange in America he is stripped every night and being made to stand in the whole night and these developed country speak about human rights.

We may be identified based on language and region but one religion Hinduism binds the country together hence it is called Hindustan.

You say Indian students thronged into US & UK colleges without thinking now I ask you whether these countries VISA issuing are being managed by the government or by the Indian authorities who are issuing Visa while issuing the Visa is the  government sleeping or just waiting to collect the fees then cheat the students from India or anywhere else.

Doctor unrest is every where in the globe and just donot spit venom on my country image.

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

Just read the letter. Strictly speaking, Dr. Togadia is indulging in publicity stunt and self promotion, distorting facts and conveniently forgetting wrongs done to Indian in India who are still awaiting justice.

Let me answer some of the issues he highlight.

1. "Students" in America has been tagged. Since when they have become students ? These so called "students" are mostly economic migrants. The scam is, someone open a "College". Their agents in India and Pakistan charge £10,000 - £20,000, arrange student Visa and send them to USA and UK. On arrival, they head for jobs, hardly or never attending the "College".

2. It is quite alright to demand justice for a girl raped and murdered in Australia where criminal justice system is most efficient. But what about justice to Arushi and Rathore ? What about reported 9 rape cases each week in Delhi ? How many of perpetrators are caught, prosecuted and punished ?

3.  Temple destroyed in Malayasia is wll known. But after demolishing Babri Masjid, do we have moral right to point finger to others and complain ?

4. Sikhs in Delhi and Muslims in Gujrat are still waiting for justice. What have we done about it ? Scores of innocents have been killed by our security forces in Kashmir. How many Security personnel have been prosecuted and punished ?

5. Dr. Togadia is quick to take up the "discrimination" in USA, UK, and Australia meted out to Indian diaspora. But why does he not talk about discrimination meted out to people from North Eastern states and Jammu and Kashmir ? I know it because one of my neice is married to a Nagaland boy. Speak to people from these parts of India of their experience. Any morally upright person with a sense of decency would hang his head in shame. That we treat our fellow countrymen like a pig.

 

Our founding fathers created India. But they and their inheritors totally and miserably failed to create "Indians". result is, we call ourselves Marathi, Bengali, Oriya, Tamil, Gujrati, Bihari and Kashmiri. We do not call ourselves Indian. SRK highlighted this in his film "Chak de India". What unite us is a cricket match, especially against Pakistan.

 

So, I am not buying any argument from Dr. Togadia.

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Permalink Reply by Munna Lal on March 16, 2011 at 4:03am

Giri bhai,  aapka jabaab nahi. Dukh ki baat yeh hai ki Hindustaaniyon ki nasl kharaab ho gai hai. unka IQ 10 key under haijaisaa ki aapka jawaab batlaa raha hai.Aap jaisey log jo quota reservation sey ABCD seekh letey hain, apney ko top samajhney lagtey hain. Giri laga kae apna jaat chupaa rahey hain. Aap jaisey log Bihar hi nahi Hindustan ka naam badnaam kiya hai.

 

Aap Malayesia mey hain. Mia sab key saath. Kyon nahi Pakistan aap jaa raheyn hain ?

Aapk kaun jaat key hain Saheb ? Kurmi, kahaar, mushar, chamar,
Anil Kumar Giri said:

Doctor Ajay Kumar the western or rather say developed world doesnot understand the difference between human beings and guinea pigs.

What human rights you are speaking take the example of a soldier who had helped Julian assange in America he is stripped every night and being made to stand in the whole night and these developed country speak about human rights.

We may be identified based on language and region but one religion Hinduism binds the country together hence it is called Hindustan.

You say Indian students thronged into US & UK colleges without thinking now I ask you whether these countries VISA issuing are being managed by the government or by the Indian authorities who are issuing Visa while issuing the Visa is the  government sleeping or just waiting to collect the fees then cheat the students from India or anywhere else.

Doctor unrest is every where in the globe and just donot spit venom on my country image.

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

Just read the letter. Strictly speaking, Dr. Togadia is indulging in publicity stunt and self promotion, distorting facts and conveniently forgetting wrongs done to Indian in India who are still awaiting justice.

Let me answer some of the issues he highlight.

1. "Students" in America has been tagged. Since when they have become students ? These so called "students" are mostly economic migrants. The scam is, someone open a "College". Their agents in India and Pakistan charge £10,000 - £20,000, arrange student Visa and send them to USA and UK. On arrival, they head for jobs, hardly or never attending the "College".

2. It is quite alright to demand justice for a girl raped and murdered in Australia where criminal justice system is most efficient. But what about justice to Arushi and Rathore ? What about reported 9 rape cases each week in Delhi ? How many of perpetrators are caught, prosecuted and punished ?

3.  Temple destroyed in Malayasia is wll known. But after demolishing Babri Masjid, do we have moral right to point finger to others and complain ?

4. Sikhs in Delhi and Muslims in Gujrat are still waiting for justice. What have we done about it ? Scores of innocents have been killed by our security forces in Kashmir. How many Security personnel have been prosecuted and punished ?

5. Dr. Togadia is quick to take up the "discrimination" in USA, UK, and Australia meted out to Indian diaspora. But why does he not talk about discrimination meted out to people from North Eastern states and Jammu and Kashmir ? I know it because one of my neice is married to a Nagaland boy. Speak to people from these parts of India of their experience. Any morally upright person with a sense of decency would hang his head in shame. That we treat our fellow countrymen like a pig.

 

Our founding fathers created India. But they and their inheritors totally and miserably failed to create "Indians". result is, we call ourselves Marathi, Bengali, Oriya, Tamil, Gujrati, Bihari and Kashmiri. We do not call ourselves Indian. SRK highlighted this in his film "Chak de India". What unite us is a cricket match, especially against Pakistan.

 

So, I am not buying any argument from Dr. Togadia.

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Permalink Reply by Anil Kumar Giri on March 16, 2011 at 8:47am

Hum jaat se Brahman hoon lekin janev nahi pahanta hoon. Murga - Anda khata hoon. Malaysia mein nahi Pondicherry makein Rahta hoon aur logon ko jyada se jyada sharab pilata hoon kyon ki ussi se meri kamayee hoti hai. Auri Reservation quota ki jaroorat nahi hai bheekh mang ke bhi kaam chal sakta hai auri 2 agarbati jala kar bhi kaam chal sakta hai aur in sab ki naubat nahi ayegi. Quota wota ki koyee jaroorat nahi aaj tak inke bare mein jyada jankari nahi hai. Miya log se dosti hai kyon ki woh log va bhi ek samay hindu the auri aaj tak desh ki sarhad chodh ke kabhi bahar nahi gaye kyon ki pass port nahi hai.

 

Hum aap jaise logon ki abhari hain jo humein 360 degrees criticize karte hain aur mujhe prothsahit karte hain. aap ke abhari hai aap ne humein sahi auri galat pahchana. AAp se koyee gila sikwa nahi dobara jaroor likhna

 

Munna Lal Kedia said:

Giri bhai,  aapka jabaab nahi. Dukh ki baat yeh hai ki Hindustaaniyon ki nasl kharaab ho gai hai. unka IQ 10 key under haijaisaa ki aapka jawaab batlaa raha hai.Aap jaisey log jo quota reservation sey ABCD seekh letey hain, apney ko top samajhney lagtey hain. Giri laga kae apna jaat chupaa rahey hain. Aap jaisey log Bihar hi nahi Hindustan ka naam badnaam kiya hai.

 

Aap Malayesia mey hain. Mia sab key saath. Kyon nahi Pakistan aap jaa raheyn hain ?

Aapk kaun jaat key hain Saheb ? Kurmi, kahaar, mushar, chamar,
Anil Kumar Giri said:

Doctor Ajay Kumar the western or rather say developed world doesnot understand the difference between human beings and guinea pigs.

What human rights you are speaking take the example of a soldier who had helped Julian assange in America he is stripped every night and being made to stand in the whole night and these developed country speak about human rights.

We may be identified based on language and region but one religion Hinduism binds the country together hence it is called Hindustan.

You say Indian students thronged into US & UK colleges without thinking now I ask you whether these countries VISA issuing are being managed by the government or by the Indian authorities who are issuing Visa while issuing the Visa is the  government sleeping or just waiting to collect the fees then cheat the students from India or anywhere else.

Doctor unrest is every where in the globe and just donot spit venom on my country image.

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

Just read the letter. Strictly speaking, Dr. Togadia is indulging in publicity stunt and self promotion, distorting facts and conveniently forgetting wrongs done to Indian in India who are still awaiting justice.

Let me answer some of the issues he highlight.

1. "Students" in America has been tagged. Since when they have become students ? These so called "students" are mostly economic migrants. The scam is, someone open a "College". Their agents in India and Pakistan charge £10,000 - £20,000, arrange student Visa and send them to USA and UK. On arrival, they head for jobs, hardly or never attending the "College".

2. It is quite alright to demand justice for a girl raped and murdered in Australia where criminal justice system is most efficient. But what about justice to Arushi and Rathore ? What about reported 9 rape cases each week in Delhi ? How many of perpetrators are caught, prosecuted and punished ?

3.  Temple destroyed in Malayasia is wll known. But after demolishing Babri Masjid, do we have moral right to point finger to others and complain ?

4. Sikhs in Delhi and Muslims in Gujrat are still waiting for justice. What have we done about it ? Scores of innocents have been killed by our security forces in Kashmir. How many Security personnel have been prosecuted and punished ?

5. Dr. Togadia is quick to take up the "discrimination" in USA, UK, and Australia meted out to Indian diaspora. But why does he not talk about discrimination meted out to people from North Eastern states and Jammu and Kashmir ? I know it because one of my neice is married to a Nagaland boy. Speak to people from these parts of India of their experience. Any morally upright person with a sense of decency would hang his head in shame. That we treat our fellow countrymen like a pig.

 

Our founding fathers created India. But they and their inheritors totally and miserably failed to create "Indians". result is, we call ourselves Marathi, Bengali, Oriya, Tamil, Gujrati, Bihari and Kashmiri. We do not call ourselves Indian. SRK highlighted this in his film "Chak de India". What unite us is a cricket match, especially against Pakistan.

 

So, I am not buying any argument from Dr. Togadia.

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Permalink Reply by Anil Kumar Giri on March 16, 2011 at 1:44pm

Doctor Ajay with due respect to your concerns this is a faceless and ethic less communication system. I just replied and forget I donot even carry it for next moment.

Dr. Ajay Kumar said:

Please Munna ji and Giri ji, for God sake, do not indulge in personal slanging match. We must support each other, but not if they are doing wrong and unlawful. Why can't we all try to abide by Voluntary Code of Conduct ? Please try to refrain from abusing each other. It doesn't matter where you live and what you eat or what caste or religion you belong to. As long as you are a decent, morally upright man, speak truth and remain polite, helpful to fellow human being, that is what it matters and count.

 

So, let us re-read the 10 point Voluntary Code of Conduct and respond within its framework.

 

Jai Hind.

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Permalink Reply by Anil Kumar Giri on March 16, 2011 at 4:35pm

Sonia & Ghulam stayed Afzal's death penalty for political gains, against Dr.Kalam's wish : wikileaks

http://sanghparivar.org/sonia-amp-ghulam-stayed-afzal039s-death-pen...

Courtsey : The Hindu (http://www.thehindu.com/news/the-india-cables/article1541349.ece?ho...)

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